{"id":35873,"date":"2021-11-09T11:57:30","date_gmt":"2021-11-09T11:57:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jazairhope.org\/?p=35873"},"modified":"2021-11-09T11:57:30","modified_gmt":"2021-11-09T11:57:30","slug":"algerian-president-abdelmadjid-tebboune-you-cant-question-a-peoples-history-and-you-cant-insult-the-algerians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jazairhope.org\/en\/algerian-president-abdelmadjid-tebboune-you-cant-question-a-peoples-history-and-you-cant-insult-the-algerians\/","title":{"rendered":"Algerian President Abdelmadjid Tebboune &#8220;You Can\u2019t Question a People\u2019s History and You Can\u2019t Insult the Algerians&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<h3 class=\"RichText RichText--sans leading-loose lg:text-xl md:text-xl sm:text-l lg:mb-32 md:mb-32 sm:mb-24\">Algerian President Abdelmadjid Tebboune recently closed his country&#8217;s airspace to France out of anger at a comment from Emmanuel Macron. DER SPIEGEL spoke with Tebboune about the diplomatic fracas, his country&#8217;s path to modernization and why journalists are still being locked up in Algeria.<\/h3>\n<h3 class=\"font-sansUI lg:text-base md:text-base sm:text-s text-shade-dark dark:text-shade-light mb-4\">Interview Conducted by\u00a0Britta Sandberg\u00a0und\u00a0Monika Bolliger<\/h3>\n<h3 class=\"font-sansUI lg:text-base md:text-base sm:text-s text-shade-dark dark:text-shade-light\"><time class=\"timeformat\" datetime=\"2021-11-09 11:29:01\">09.11.2021,\u00a0<\/time><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The road leading to the presidential palace in Algiers winds its way up to a barrier manned by heavily armed military guards. Behind them are the expansive palace grounds, with whitewashed buildings, verdant courtyards and burbling fountains.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16\" data-advertisement=\"GujAd outstream_div\">\n<div class=\"publisher-tag-sh-spot\" data-player=\"c9ddb645-6194-4c7b-b419-770c5285d1e1\">\n<div class=\"publisher-sh-spot-container\">\n<div class=\"publisher-sh-spot-header\">\n<div class=\"publisher-sh-frame-branding\">\n<div class=\"publisher-sh-frame-disclaimer\"><span style=\"text-transform: initial;\">Since December 2019, the palace has been occupied by Abdelmadjid Tebboune. The 75-year-old became president after two decades of rule by Abdelaziz Bouteflika, that sickly, aging autocrat who, toward the end of his reign, ran the country from a seaside villa, supported by the all-powerful military. But by spring 2019, Algerians had had enough of the corrupt, incompetent Bouteflika and poured into the streets by the hundreds of thousands, triggered by the president\u2019s announcement that he intended to run for a fifth term in office. The protest movement, which came to be known as Hirak, forced him to step aside that same year. In December elections, Tebboune received the most votes.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"clear-both lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 sm:w-full mx-auto lg:my-32 md:my-32 sm:my-24 lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16\">\n<div data-issue-context-hidden=\"\">\n<section class=\"bg-sec2-lightest dark:bg-sec2-darker rounded pb-12 lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 flow-root pt-8\" data-area=\"contentbox\"><span class=\"block font-extrabold border-separator-b pb-16 my-16 font-brandUI text-xl leading-tight\">DER SPIEGEL 45\/2021<\/span><\/p>\n<figure class=\"lg:w-4\/12 md:w-4\/12 sm:w-5\/12 mt-6 relative lg:mb-24 md:mb-24 sm:mb-16 float-left clear-left lg:mr-24 md:mr-24 sm:mr-16\" data-component=\"Image\" data-zoom-id=\"f8c41621-253d-458a-8883-de2d4e4e026a\" data-settings=\"{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;6e4e6843-cc7f-4499-8300-9e02dbefcaf5&quot;, &quot;zoomable&quot;:false,&quot;zoomId&quot;:&quot;f8c41621-253d-458a-8883-de2d4e4e026a&quot;}\" data-component-id=\"a37cf8c3-d87f-431f-84e1-ecd5bc020873\"><strong style=\"text-transform: initial;\">The article you are reading originally appeared in German in issue 45\/2021 (November 6th, 2021) of DER SPIEGEL.<\/strong><\/figure>\n<p><a class=\"mb-16 mr-24 leading-normal font-bold bg-primary-base dark:bg-dm-primary-base inline-block border border-primary-base dark:border-dm-primary-base hover:border-primary-dark focus:border-primary-darker disabled:border-shade-lighter hover:bg-primary-dark focus:bg-primary-darker disabled:bg-shade-lighter dark:disabled:bg-shade-darker disabled:text-shade-dark dark:disabled:text-shade-light disabled:cursor-not-allowed text-white dark:text-shade-lightest font-sansUI pl-16 pr-12 py-12 text-s rounded\" title=\"SPIEGEL International\" href=\"https:\/\/www.spiegel.de\/international\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span class=\"flex\"><span class=\"relative bottom-px\">SPIEGEL International<\/span><\/span><\/a><\/section>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p>At just 40 percent, though, voter turnout was historically low. Many who had joined the protest movement boycotted the election. They had been hoping for a longer interval between Bouteflika\u2019s resignation and new elections, which would have given Hirak more time to organize. But the army pushed through the vote, for which just five out of 23 candidates were certified \u2013 all of whom were products of the country\u2019s entrenched power structures.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-24\" data-advertisement=\"GujAd teaser_11\">\n<div id=\"teaser_11\" class=\"gujAd focus-within:outline-focus md:overflow-hidden sm:overflow-hidden GujAdInUse\" data-advertisement=\"GujAd teaser_11 mobile desktop tablet lg md sm\" data-google-query-id=\"CIas6caai_QCFQrk4Qod4jsMGA\">\n<div id=\"Anzeige_teaser_11\" class=\"emsAnzeige\">ANZEIGE<\/div>\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/6032,22337032985\/spon_dt\/international_3__container__\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"clear-both w-full mx-auto lg:my-48 md:my-32 sm:my-24\">\n<figure class=\"justify-start lg:mb-8 md:mb-8 cursor-pointer\" data-component=\"Image\" data-zoom-id=\"3b49b787-ef4f-4bd4-b0b0-e824ec3f5970\" data-settings=\"{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;0843c890-9511-4ba6-9af4-80694b5a0899&quot;, &quot;zoomable&quot;:true,&quot;zoomId&quot;:&quot;3b49b787-ef4f-4bd4-b0b0-e824ec3f5970&quot;}\" data-component-id=\"edd2d656-9ca2-47d2-847d-8a8e18fd84ce\">\n<div class=\"bg-white dark:bg-dm-shade-darkest\">\n<div class=\"relative\">\n<div style=\"width: 1006px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"block lazyload w-auto h-full mx-auto loaded\" title=\"Anti-government protests in April in Algiers: &quot;We had to completely rebuild the state.&quot;\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/0843c890-9511-4ba6-9af4-80694b5a0899_w996_r1.502439024390244_fpx41.93_fpy45.jpg\" sizes=\"996px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/0843c890-9511-4ba6-9af4-80694b5a0899_w520_r1.502439024390244_fpx41.93_fpy45.jpg 520w, https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/0843c890-9511-4ba6-9af4-80694b5a0899_w996_r1.502439024390244_fpx41.93_fpy45.jpg 996w\" alt=\"Anti-government protests in April in Algiers: &quot;We had to completely rebuild the state.&quot;\" width=\"996\" height=\"663\" data-image-el=\"img\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Anti-government protests in April in Algiers:\u00a0&#8220;We had to completely rebuild the state.&#8221;<\/p><\/div>\n<p><button class=\"z-10 group group-hover group-focus p-8 flex absolute right-0 top-0 mr-8 mt-8\" type=\"button\" data-image-el=\"zoomButton\"><span class=\"sr-only\"><span style=\"background-color: #ffffff; color: #4a4a4a; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; text-transform: initial;\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"RichTextCredit text-shade-light dark:text-shade-dark ml-4\" style=\"background-color: #ffffff; color: #4a4a4a; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; text-transform: initial;\">Foto: Ryad Kramdi\u00a0\/ AFP<\/span><\/span><\/button><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/section>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p>Algeria is a key country for Europe from both a strategic and political perspective. Migrant routes run through the country, used by people from sub-Saharan Africa and others eager to reach Europe. And Algeria also supplies natural gas to Spain and other European countries. The largest country in Africa by area, Algeria shares a border with northern Mali, a restful region controlled by various groups, some of them Islamist, where French and German troops have been the target of repeat attacks. The country\u2019s other neighbors include Libya, Tunisia and Morocco. As such, the government in Algiers plays a vital role of mediator and as guarantor of security \u2013 when it actually decides to take on the task.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-24 clear-right lg:float-right md:float-right lg:mr-1\/12 md:mr-1\/12 lg:ml-24 md:ml-24 lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:mx-16\" data-advertisement=\"GujAd superbanner_2 mobile_3\">\n<div id=\"superbanner_2\" class=\"gujAd focus-within:outline-focus md:overflow-hidden sm:overflow-hidden GujAdInUse\" data-advertisement=\"GujAd superbanner_2 tablet desktop lg md sm\" data-google-query-id=\"CIes6caai_QCFQrk4Qod4jsMGA\">\n<div id=\"Anzeige_superbanner_2\" class=\"emsAnzeige\">ANZEIGE<\/div>\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/6032,22337032985\/spon_dt\/international_4__container__\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p>Tebboune is currently attempting to reposition his country on foreign policy, seeking to establish closer ties to new partners like the United States, Italy and Germany, in part as a way of distancing his country from the former colonial power of France. In October, he broke off diplomatic relations with Paris and is allegedly is no longer taking calls from the office of French President Emmanuel Macron, with whom he used to maintain close contact. Withstanding such crises, say those close to Tebboune, is part of Algeria\u2019s newfound sovereignty.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"clear-right lg:float-right md:float-right lg:w-4\/12 md:w-5\/12 lg:mr-1\/12 md:mr-1\/12 lg:ml-24 md:ml-24 lg:px-24 md:px-24 lg:mt-8 md:mt-8 sm:mt-24 mb-24 sm:mx-16\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"border-separator-t\">\n<div class=\"border-separator-b py-24 sm:px-16\">\n<div class=\"text-primary-base dark:text-dm-primary-base font-brandUI text-2xl break-words word-wrap\">&#8220;What was revealed there was the old hatred harbored by the colonial masters, though I know that Macron is far away from thinking in that manner.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0Mr. President, in a conversation with young Algerians in late September, the French president raised the question as to whether Algeria had even been a nation prior to its colonization by France. You immediately broke off diplomatic relations in response. Is a single sentence enough to justify such a reaction?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-24 clear-right lg:float-right md:float-right lg:mr-1\/12 md:mr-1\/12 lg:ml-24 md:ml-24 lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:mx-16\" data-advertisement=\"GujAd teaser_12\">\n<div id=\"teaser_12\" class=\"gujAd focus-within:outline-focus md:overflow-hidden sm:overflow-hidden GujAdInUse\" data-advertisement=\"GujAd teaser_12 mobile desktop tablet lg md sm\" data-google-query-id=\"CIis6caai_QCFQrk4Qod4jsMGA\">\n<div id=\"Anzeige_teaser_12\" class=\"emsAnzeige\">ANZEIGE<\/div>\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/6032,22337032985\/spon_dt\/international_5__container__\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0You can\u2019t question a people\u2019s history and you can\u2019t insult the Algerians. What was revealed there was the old hatred harbored by the colonial masters, though I know that Macron is far away from thinking in that manner. Why did he say that? I think it was for reasons of campaign strategy. It is the same discourse that has long been pursued by right-wing extremist journalist \u00c9ric Zemmour: Algeria wasn\u2019t a nation, he claims, it was France that transformed it into a nation. With his comment, Macron placed himself on the same side with those who justify colonization.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0But until that point, you got along well with Macron. You were involved in joint projects, including taking a new look at your nations\u2019 histories. Do you regret the current crisis?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-24 clear-right lg:float-right md:float-right lg:mr-1\/12 md:mr-1\/12 lg:ml-24 md:ml-24 lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:mx-16\" data-advertisement=\"GujAd mobile_4 superbanner_3\">\n<div id=\"superbanner_3\" class=\"gujAd focus-within:outline-focus md:overflow-hidden sm:overflow-hidden GujAdInUse\" data-advertisement=\"GujAd superbanner_3 desktop tablet lg md sm\" data-google-query-id=\"CIms6caai_QCFQrk4Qod4jsMGA\">\n<div id=\"Anzeige_superbanner_3\" class=\"emsAnzeige\">ANZEIGE<\/div>\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/6032,22337032985\/spon_dt\/international_6__container__\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0I have no regrets. Macron reignited an old conflict completely unnecessarily. When Zemmour says something like that, who cares? Nobody pays attention to him. But when a head of state claims that Algeria wasn\u2019t an independent nation, that is very serious. I won\u2019t be the one to take the first step. Otherwise, I\u2019ll lose the support of all Algerians. It\u2019s not about me, it\u2019s about a national problem. No Algerian would accept it were I to initiate contact with those who insulted us.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"clear-both lg:w-10\/12 mx-auto lg:my-32 md:my-32 sm:my-24 lg:px-24\">\n<figure class=\"justify-start justify-start cursor-pointer\" data-component=\"Image\" data-zoom-id=\"e06ecbde-457f-457c-a9a5-3c775b691cf8\" data-settings=\"{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;0b0fbe73-68e9-4300-9dcd-710ee6d9a2d6&quot;, &quot;zoomable&quot;:true,&quot;zoomId&quot;:&quot;e06ecbde-457f-457c-a9a5-3c775b691cf8&quot;}\" data-component-id=\"6aebdb9f-fdb4-485d-98dd-f6d26eb48f72\">\n<div class=\"bg-white dark:bg-dm-shade-darkest\">\n<div class=\"relative\">\n<div style=\"width: 930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"block lazyload w-auto h-full mx-auto loaded\" title=\"French President Emmanuel Macron during his visit to Algeria in December 2017.\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/0b0fbe73-68e9-4300-9dcd-710ee6d9a2d6_w920_r1.5_fpx70_fpy53.jpg\" sizes=\"920px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/0b0fbe73-68e9-4300-9dcd-710ee6d9a2d6_w520_r1.5_fpx70_fpy53.jpg 520w, https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/0b0fbe73-68e9-4300-9dcd-710ee6d9a2d6_w782_r1.5_fpx70_fpy53.jpg 782w, https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/0b0fbe73-68e9-4300-9dcd-710ee6d9a2d6_w920_r1.5_fpx70_fpy53.jpg 920w\" alt=\"French President Emmanuel Macron during his visit to Algeria in December 2017.\" width=\"920\" height=\"613\" data-image-el=\"img\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">French President Emmanuel Macron during his visit to Algeria in December 2017.\u00a0Foto: Zohra Bensemra\u00a0\/ REUTERS<\/p><\/div>\n<p><button class=\"z-10 group group-hover group-focus p-8 flex absolute right-0 top-0 mr-8 mt-8\" type=\"button\" data-image-el=\"zoomButton\"><span class=\"sr-only\">Bild vergr\u00f6\u00dfern<\/span><\/button><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p><strong style=\"text-transform: initial;\">DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong><span style=\"text-transform: initial;\">\u00a0Last year, the French president commissioned a report from a historian who has been asked to make recommendations for how Paris should deal with its colonial history. What did you expect from him, from France? An apology?<\/span><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0Our country doesn\u2019t need an apology from Macron for something that happened in 1830 or 1840. But we do want a complete and unreserved recognition of the crimes that France committed. And Macron has already done so. In 2017, he declared publicly that colonization had been a crime against humanity. You know, the Germans destroyed an entire village in Oradour-sur-Glane in 1944. That massacre is commemorated to this day, and rightly so. But in Algeria, there were dozens of Oradour-sur-Glanes. The residents of innumerable villages were herded into caves, wood was thrown inside and then set on fire. The people suffocated horrifically.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0So there is no indication that the crisis with France will end any time soon?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0No. If the French now want to travel to Mali or Niger, they\u2019ll have to fly for nine hours instead of four. Though we will make exceptions for the recovery of the injured. But when it comes to everything else, we don\u2019t really have to cooperate with each other anymore. Maybe that\u2019s just over. We weren\u2019t subhumans, we weren\u2019t a people of nomadic tribes before the French showed up.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"clear-both lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 sm:w-full mx-auto lg:my-32 md:my-32 sm:my-24 lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16\">\n<div class=\"lg:my-40 md:my-40\">\n<div class=\"border-separator-t\">\n<div class=\"border-separator-b py-24 sm:px-16\">\n<div class=\"lg:w-10\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto\">\n<div class=\"text-primary-base dark:text-dm-primary-base font-brandUI text-2xl break-words word-wrap lg:text-3xl md:text-3xl\">&#8220;I greatly admire Angela Merkel\u2019s stamina and her modesty. I greatly regret that she is now going.&#8221;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0In your interactions with a different European country, with Germany, your tone has been far more conciliatory. Why? What binds Algeria with Germany?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0The Germans have always treated us with respect. They have never approached us with arrogance and there have never been any disagreements on foreign policy. Plus, I greatly admire Angela Merkel\u2019s stamina and her modesty. I greatly regret that she is now going. I will never forget how she personally looked after me when I was in Germany for medical treatment. Germany is a role model for us in many different ways.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"clear-both lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 sm:w-full mx-auto lg:my-32 md:my-32 sm:my-24 lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16\">\n<figure class=\"justify-start justify-start cursor-pointer\" data-component=\"Image\" data-zoom-id=\"5f0f4a1e-e644-422c-8a28-0c860b15ec4b\" data-settings=\"{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;bee27f10-20d8-4ba5-b443-9c0882c5f71d&quot;, &quot;zoomable&quot;:true,&quot;zoomId&quot;:&quot;5f0f4a1e-e644-422c-8a28-0c860b15ec4b&quot;}\" data-component-id=\"7faedd92-da74-43a5-8578-4dcc19ed8d33\">\n<div class=\"bg-white dark:bg-dm-shade-darkest\">\n<div class=\"relative\">\n<div style=\"width: 728px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"block lazyload w-auto h-full mx-auto loaded\" title=\"President Tebboune at his residence in Algiers.\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/bee27f10-20d8-4ba5-b443-9c0882c5f71d_w718_r1.5_fpx33.34_fpy50.jpg\" sizes=\"718px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/bee27f10-20d8-4ba5-b443-9c0882c5f71d_w488_r1.5_fpx33.34_fpy50.jpg 488w, https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/bee27f10-20d8-4ba5-b443-9c0882c5f71d_w616_r1.5_fpx33.34_fpy50.jpg 616w, https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/bee27f10-20d8-4ba5-b443-9c0882c5f71d_w718_r1.5_fpx33.34_fpy50.jpg 718w\" alt=\"President Tebboune at his residence in Algiers.\" width=\"718\" height=\"479\" data-image-el=\"img\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">President Tebboune at his residence in Algiers.\u00a0Foto: Arslane Bestaoui\u00a0\/ DER SPIEGEL<\/p><\/div>\n<p><button class=\"z-10 group group-hover group-focus p-8 flex absolute right-0 top-0 mr-8 mt-8\" type=\"button\" data-image-el=\"zoomButton\"><span class=\"sr-only\">Bild vergr\u00f6\u00dfern<\/span><\/button><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/section>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0You are also interested in expanding economic ties with Germany. What are your expectations from the new government in Berlin, once it takes office?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0To be honest, all that is possible. I would, for example, like to see us build a large hospital in Algiers together. A place that can handle all specialized areas of medical care, for the entire Maghreb. An African president could then finally receive treatment on his own continent instead having to travel to Switzerland. We would be prepared to finance the bulk of this project. There is also a great deal of potential on renewable energies. With German help, we could supply Europe with solar power.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0Two years ago, you promised to put an end to the old way of doing things and initiate a new era in Algeria. How much of that has since come true?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0I eliminated taxes for all salaries below 30,000 dinars, around 190 euros, per month. I have increased the minimum wage. Rural regions that have thus far been largely forgotten are receiving special assistance. But one of the most important tasks is that of injecting new morals into the administration and the economy. We have been battling corruption for the last two years.<\/p>\n<p><em>Tebboune spent enough time as part of the power apparatus in Algiers to know how few scruples Bouteflika had. Over the course of several years, the old head of state transferred billions of dollars out of the country. The new government is still searching the world for the stolen money with the help of consulting firms \u2013 in the U.S., in Switzerland and in other European countries. The new government apparently also seized large sums of money in Algeria itself \u2013 at least that is what those close to the president claim. Tebboune has also announced numerous economic reforms. But how many of those plans will he actually be able to implement? Is the Ministry of Startups, which he launched, just a bluff or is it really an effort to change things in the country? And what does it mean when the head of the military is on television just as often as the president?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0Before you took office, the military locked up high-ranking members of the old power apparatus, including Bouteflika\u2019s brother Sa\u00efd, who was later sentenced. Were additional arrests made on your watch?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0Of course. I am currently battling corruption primarily in the lower ranks. What took place at the governmental level was an unforgiveable squandering of this country\u2019s riches. It is the citizens who must pay for day-to-day corruption. But that is now over. Never again should someone have to produce a banknote in a city hall to get a new passport.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"clear-both lg:w-10\/12 mx-auto lg:my-32 md:my-32 sm:my-24 lg:px-24\">\n<figure class=\"justify-start justify-start cursor-pointer\" data-component=\"Image\" data-zoom-id=\"96200ff9-47f0-4117-9ecc-13276fb1172d\" data-settings=\"{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;3e0d98b4-a953-4e6f-ac93-600c3f0727d8&quot;, &quot;zoomable&quot;:true,&quot;zoomId&quot;:&quot;96200ff9-47f0-4117-9ecc-13276fb1172d&quot;}\" data-component-id=\"5c303640-b5fe-401a-a967-d74e7217db51\">\n<div class=\"bg-white dark:bg-dm-shade-darkest\">\n<div class=\"relative\">\n<div style=\"width: 930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"block lazyload w-auto h-full mx-auto loaded\" title=\"Demonstrations in Algiers on Feb. 22, 2021, the second anniversary of the start of the Hirak protest movement.\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/3e0d98b4-a953-4e6f-ac93-600c3f0727d8_w920_r1.502439024390244_fpx66.56_fpy50.jpg\" sizes=\"920px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/3e0d98b4-a953-4e6f-ac93-600c3f0727d8_w520_r1.502439024390244_fpx66.56_fpy50.jpg 520w, https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/3e0d98b4-a953-4e6f-ac93-600c3f0727d8_w782_r1.502439024390244_fpx66.56_fpy50.jpg 782w, https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/3e0d98b4-a953-4e6f-ac93-600c3f0727d8_w920_r1.502439024390244_fpx66.56_fpy50.jpg 920w\" alt=\"Demonstrations in Algiers on Feb. 22, 2021, the second anniversary of the start of the Hirak protest movement.\" width=\"920\" height=\"612\" data-image-el=\"img\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Demonstrations in Algiers on Feb. 22, 2021, the second anniversary of the start of the Hirak protest movement. \u00a0Foto: Ryad Kramdi\u00a0\/ AFP<\/p><\/div>\n<p><button class=\"z-10 group group-hover group-focus p-8 flex absolute right-0 top-0 mr-8 mt-8\" type=\"button\" data-image-el=\"zoomButton\"><span class=\"sr-only\">Bild vergr\u00f6\u00dfern<\/span><\/button><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/section>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0Is it really possible to just change a system and habits that have become ingrained over the course of several decades?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0It starts with the fundamental things. We had to completely rebuild the state. We used to have what I would call an informal state. I brought a lot of people from the private economy into government. The government spokesman used to be a television moderator; the man who now leads the Ministry for Startups was part of the 2019 protest movement. We are currently completely revamping the audit office. We are going after tax dodgers. And we have agreed on a new constitution that will grant the citizens more rights.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0And yet, people in Algeria are more frightened of state repression than ever before and are afraid of expressing their opinions. Journalists are being arrested in your country. Are you not just the civilian fa\u00e7ade of a continuation of the military regime?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0The Algerian people know that isn\u2019t true. I was the one who nominated the chief of the army. In addition to being president, I am also the defense minister. The country\u2019s secret services are under my control and no longer belong to the military. That is the new reality in Algeria, underpinned by the constitution: self-confident action instead of dependencies.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0What is the current balance of power between the army and the president?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0I\u2019ll tell you. The chief of the army, who is under my command, received an order from me to modernize the military. Beyond that, he has enough to do with the sensitive situation on our borders. I am the political leader. Nobody will carry out that responsibility in my stead. I was the one who ordered the closure of Algerian airspace for French military flights. I was also the one who did the same for Moroccan aircraft. But it is impossible to get rid of the image the world has of Algeria as a military state.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0There is a passage in the new constitution that allows for Algeria to send soldiers abroad. Are you planning on sending your own troops into Mali?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0We can now be asked for help. The UN can turn to us, or the African Union. If the Malians were to find themselves facing an imminent attack, we would intervene if requested to do so. But our soldiers are Algerians who have families. I will not send them to their deaths to defend the interests of others. Enough Algerians have died in the past. The big question in Mali is how the country can be reunited. Algeria, in any case, will never accept the partitioning of Mali.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"clear-both lg:w-10\/12 mx-auto lg:my-32 md:my-32 sm:my-24 lg:px-24\">\n<figure class=\"justify-start justify-start cursor-pointer\" data-component=\"Image\" data-zoom-id=\"aaa71118-a2d0-47cd-aeeb-d70cc5cde243\" data-settings=\"{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;a6060fe8-e2e8-4ae8-a5d2-7df30e309e1b&quot;, &quot;zoomable&quot;:true,&quot;zoomId&quot;:&quot;aaa71118-a2d0-47cd-aeeb-d70cc5cde243&quot;}\" data-component-id=\"e0d72701-27be-4a9f-b6b3-0c86793a0b68\">\n<div class=\"bg-white dark:bg-dm-shade-darkest\">\n<div class=\"relative\">\n<div style=\"width: 930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"block lazyload w-auto h-full mx-auto loaded\" title=\"Tebboune during his DER SPIEGEL interview with reporters Britta Sandberg (left) and Monika Bollinger.\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/a6060fe8-e2e8-4ae8-a5d2-7df30e309e1b_w920_r1.5281447443997702_fpx29.44_fpy44.98.jpg\" sizes=\"920px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/a6060fe8-e2e8-4ae8-a5d2-7df30e309e1b_w520_r1.5281447443997702_fpx29.44_fpy44.98.jpg 520w, https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/a6060fe8-e2e8-4ae8-a5d2-7df30e309e1b_w782_r1.5281447443997702_fpx29.44_fpy44.98.jpg 782w, https:\/\/cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de\/images\/a6060fe8-e2e8-4ae8-a5d2-7df30e309e1b_w920_r1.5281447443997702_fpx29.44_fpy44.98.jpg 920w\" alt=\"Tebboune during his DER SPIEGEL interview with reporters Britta Sandberg (left) and Monika Bollinger.\" width=\"920\" height=\"602\" data-image-el=\"img\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tebboune during his DER SPIEGEL interview with reporters Britta Sandberg (left) and Monika Bollinger. \u00a0Foto: Arslane Bestaoui\u00a0\/ DER SPIEGEL<\/p><\/div>\n<p><button class=\"z-10 group group-hover group-focus p-8 flex absolute right-0 top-0 mr-8 mt-8\" type=\"button\" data-image-el=\"zoomButton\"><span class=\"sr-only\">Bild vergr\u00f6\u00dfern<\/span><\/button><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/section>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0France isn\u2019t the only country you are having trouble with. You have also closed Algerian airspace to your neighbor Morocco. Why?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0The Moroccans want to divide Algeria. Their UN representative expressed support for the independence movement in a part of our country, Kabylia. Nobody, not even the king, redressed his comments. Ultimately, we cut off relations.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0But you are supporting the Polisario Front, which is seeking independence for Western Sahara. Morocco claims that territory as its own. Why are you doing so?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0We are in favor of allowing the Sahrawi to decide on their own fate. Only Morocco isn\u2019t playing along. You know, there is something that bothers me about the public perception of the two countries. In Morocco, the king is wealthy, but the illiteracy rate is still 45 percent. Here, it is just 9 percent. Europe erroneously imagines Morocco like a beautiful postcard, but we are seen as a kind of North Korea. Yet we are an extremely open country.<\/p>\n<p><em>And yet many young Algerians, even entire families, are leaving the country and crossing the Mediterranean to Europe. Speedboats depart from Oran in the western part of the country, and it is thought that they are under the control of mafia-like organizations. The government tries to avoid the issue of illegal migration wherever it can. There are no official numbers regarding the migrants, and it is dangerous for Algerian journalists to publish migration statistics collected by Spain. Some of them, says one journalist who asked that his name not be published, have even been arrested due to posts on Facebook. A climate of fear, the journalist says, has once again spread across the country.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0Isn\u2019t the fact that so many Algerians are leaving the country a condemnation of your leadership?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0It isn\u2019t the economic situation that is driving our youth to Europe. It is the dream of a life in Europe. Nobody must suffer from hunger in Algeria. Among those who have left are many doctors and lawyers. But please let\u2019s not forget: There are also a large number of Algerians who obtain visas to travel to Paris and Marseille, and then return home after two weeks.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"clear-both lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 sm:w-full mx-auto lg:my-32 md:my-32 sm:my-24 lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16\">\n<div class=\"lg:my-40 md:my-40\">\n<div class=\"border-separator-t\">\n<div class=\"border-separator-b py-24 sm:px-16\">\n<div class=\"lg:w-10\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto\">\n<div class=\"text-primary-base dark:text-dm-primary-base font-brandUI text-2xl break-words word-wrap lg:text-3xl md:text-3xl\">&#8220;Freedom of the press does not cover the production of Fake News nor does it allow for the vilification of one\u2019s country.&#8221;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<div class=\"RichText RichText--iconLinks RichText--lastPmb0 RichText--lastInline lg:w-8\/12 md:w-10\/12 lg:mx-auto md:mx-auto lg:px-24 md:px-24 sm:px-16 break-words word-wrap\">\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0But many no longer believe that you are really bringing democracy to the country. You have had journalists arrested. Is that the new Algeria that you once promised?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0There are journalists in prison in France and also in the U.S. Why shouldn\u2019t there be any in Algeria? We have 180 daily papers here and there are 8,500 people working as journalists in the country. But when two or three of them are rightly convicted, people say: oh, they\u2019re locking up their journalists. Freedom of the press does not cover the production of Fake News nor does it allow for the vilification of one\u2019s country. In cases where these red lines are crossed, the judiciary must act.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DER SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0You would, then, tell all your doubters that you are serious about transforming Algeria?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tebboune:<\/strong>\u00a0The Hirak, the uprising, is over. I am now the Hirak. The uprising was a national movement, not some collection of splinter groups. I have declared Feb. 22, the date on which the protests began in 2019, as a national holiday because this movement put a stop to the deterioration of our country. Perhaps you remember the images showing a resilient people with a well-developed sense for freedom \u2013 similar to Cuba, Vietnam and other revolutionary countries.<\/p>\n<p>spiegel.de<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Algerian President Abdelmadjid Tebboune recently closed his country&#8217;s airspace to France out of anger at a comment from Emmanuel Macron. 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